David Jameson

Meh --- 11 months later? Still not fixed. I relunctantly gave up on Enpass a long time ago and switched to Strongbox. It's not nearly as pretty as Enpass but it reliably connects to my NextCloud server via webdav from all my computers and devices.

They have been discussing this for two years --- I'm done with them! Such a shame, enpass seemed like it was going to be my lifesaver. So I just bought Strongbox (Mac version of Keypass) and discovered that Enpass's CSV export process does not produce useful CSV, no headers and just arbitrary sequences of comma delimited output, with a different number of columns in each line depending on what's actually in each entry. I exported the json version and converted it to XML to have a quick look and as far as I can tell, pulling the info into another password manager automatically is completely impossible. Be warned!

No, I disconnected the Nextcloud service from all my devices and computers first --- I had to -- enpass was not reliable with Nextcloud --- that's why I wanted to try switching to NextCloud. That said, I'm not quite sure why that should even matter --- if an item is newer in a vault than it is on my device, it should update the item on my device --- if the item is then even newer on another vault, both my device and the first vault should be updated. That is how I would expect it to behave.

Sorry, what exactly would you not expect to work? With my first tests with iCloud, I discovered that whichever device connected most recently “won”, meaning that it overwrote everything in the vault stored on iCloud regardless of whether some of the already stored items had newer dates, so items updated (or added) from other devices previously to a sync from another device simply got lost. This had nothing to do with having multiple vaults. Enpass has fixed that issue though I have run into another issue where items added from my computer sometimes don’t show up on my iPad or iPhone. Not sure yet what’s going on, though I’m suspecting that Enpass is just not always resyncing itself after a change.

I reported this issue just over a year ago

As you can see, using the Nextcloud option still does not work --looks like you're not adding the WebDAV stuff under the covers!

I'm still using iCloud but I'm frankly afraid because of the problem where enpass on one machine blindly overwrites the entire vault on iCloud. I'd like to go back to NextCloud but as mentioned earlier, it is not reliable.

Regarding (1) above, I'm quite confused --- I've never used either Dropbox nor Wifi Sync (I don't even know what the latter is) so I'm not quite sure what you're suggesting. The two problems I have run into with NextCloud were 1. This doesn't work.... you have to use this 2. Every few weeks (it seems), Enpass would fail to connect and keep asking me to reauthenticate -- and it would not accept the password. The only solution was to delete the Enpass folder in NextCloud and start all over again Hence --- I tried switching to iCloud and then I ran into the other problem where syncing from one Enpass would completely overwrite every entry and so if you had added a new item to some other Enpass app on another computer, that item got lost. That's really serious -- I've lost critical information because of this problem (e.g, notes that I store get lost) It sounds like neither of these issues is addressed.

I'm trying to determine whether the new update for Enpass on Mac actually fixes (any or all of) the problems I (and others) have reported over the last year but the descriptions are so generic, it's very hard to figure out. So Fixed an issue where Enpass could sync continuously, waiting for reauthentication. Sync continuously with what? Some vault? Does this address the problem where after some time, Enpass keeps asking for the password again to sync with NextCloud? Password History duplication (due to incorrect timestamp during sync) has been resolved. Does this solve the problem where syncing from one computer completely overwrites syncing from another computer? On iCloud only or on any vault? Have you addressed the issue where it's not possible to set up a connection directly via the NextCloud option and it can only be done using your WebDAV option? Thanks

Yeah, I've already started evaluating alternatives --- such things as server access, proper syncing of entries (without overwriting other stuff on the server) are fundamental pieces of functionality that should be the highest priority to address.

Does this new beta address the problem with iCloud syncing and overwriting with older values?

Ha…you’re late to the party….when I got it some time ago, it would take 5-10 seconds to search….1.5 seconds is an improvement. But yeah, it should be instantaneous and I don’t know what they’re doing so that it isn’t.

I think the equipment list is irrelevant. Just setup enpass on a Mac and on an iPad, sync with iCloud, and you will be able to reproduce the problem. It may very well be that the problem can be reproduced using two Macs as well, I haven’t tried that. in any case, the symptoms suggests strongly that the date of the entry is not being used to determine which “side” is newer. That said, I wish you’d fix the problem with Nextcloud so Enpass doesn’t arbitrarily decide that the password is wrong and refuses to connect any more.

So, I have completely given up using my Nextcloud server for Enpass (Enpass is just not reliable in that environment)....sad because the ability to use my private server was the reason I switched in the first place. However, given the amount of time I have now invested in Enpass, before giving up on Enpass completely I thought I'd try using iCloud as the server and immediately ran into a new problem. Scenario: I have multiple devices but with just my Mac and an iPhone, here's the problem I ran into. Step 1. I switched my Mac to use iCloud instead of NextCloud and synced. Step 2. I then modified the passwords for one of the entries in Enpass (Plex had a data breach the other day so I was changing passwords) Step 2a) I don't remember if I explicitly resynced or just shut off my system but regardless, that shouldn't matter! Step 3. A few hours later, I opened my iPhone, opened Enpass and switched the vault from NextCloud to iCloud and synced Step 4. The next day, I opened my Mac again, opened Enpass and discovered that the password for my Plex had reverted to the old password that was still on my iPhone. Step 5. Sure enough, checking my iPhone, the old password was still stored. It seems that when you connect your vault to a new source, the sync process isn't taking into account the **timestamp** of entries already in the vault and Enpass is just blindly overwriting with whatever is on the device being synced. It **should** be detecting when a value in the vault is newer than what is on the device and sync that value back to the device. This is scary because passwords can now easily be lost. Very disappointing and surprising behavior for a critical tool.

Issue resolved - my mistake