Please re-enable clear text sharing

[ik8sqi]

A recent change in the MacOS and iOS app now makes impossible to share items unless they are encrypted with a pre-shared key. This means that now we can only share passwords with other users who are using Enpass. If they are using other password managers as is usually the case we can't share items with them anymore. A common scenario is the sharing of an account to another coworker via Signal - we do that often since Signal is encrypted and super-secure. But no... now we can't do that anymore as we can't share the clear-text version of the account anymore. And no - I can't just copy/paste the password as there's often multiple entries and notes that go along with the login - see screenshot. It's a pain to copy/paste them all. Why in the world are you forcing me to do that???

This option needs to be user-selectable. Whoever came up with the stupid idea of making this option not changeable needs to realize we don't live in a world where everyone uses Enpass. Do you think we are all so dumb and ignorant we can't decide for ourselves? It's my choice to decide if I need to transfer the items encrypted or in clear text over another secure transport such as Signal. It's not your choice to make.

Please allow us to decide if we need to encrypt the data when sharing.

[Abhishek Dewan]

Hi @ik8sqi

We have received your query on support@enpass.io and have responded to the same. To avoid duplication of efforts and confusion, we request you to please revert to the same. We appreciate your understanding in this case.

[JFS]

Hello,

I have the same problem witch sharing. And I can remember that it worked before also without PSK.
Why do you come to so problematic a decisions?

And in which menuitem can I find the generated PSKs for my teammember?

best

Edited August 1, 2023 by JFS

[Abhishek Dewan]

Hi @JFS

To securely share individual Items, you must first create a secret password — called a pre-shared key (PSK) — known only to you, and provided to your recipients so they can unlock the encrypted Item when they receive it. Importing a shared Item requires the recipient to provide this PSK. To learn more about sharing Individual Items in Enpass, please refer to the below links -

1. Sharing individual Items with other Enpass users

2. Adding individual Items shared by other Enpass users

 

[ik8sqi]

1 hour ago, JFS said:

Hello,

I have the same problem witch sharing. And I can remember that it worked before also without PSK.
Why do you come to so problematic a decisions?

Yes, it worked before. For iOS unfortunately there's nothing we can do until they realize that was an obtuse decision and release a new version that allows the sharing without enforcing the PSK. But for the desktop version, if you email them privately they will give you the previous version.

Please note that the first time I asked for the previous MacOS version without the PSK enforcement, for some unknown reason they opted to give me a VERY old version -  v5.6.11 (maybe the reply was sent by the same person who decided that enforcing PSK was a good idea...?). When I complained and asked for the latest version before that senseless upgrade (v6.8.6 enforces PSK), they eventually gave me the link to download the v6.8.5 installer. I had the MacOS app store version, so I needed their non-app store in order to downgrade.

 

[ik8sqi]

On 6/16/2023 at 6:43 AM, Abhishek Dewan said:

Hi @ik8sqi

We have received your query on support@enpass.io and have responded to the same. To avoid duplication of efforts and confusion, we request you to please revert to the same. We appreciate your understanding in this case.

I am stuck using the older v6.8.5 that does not enforce using the PSK to share items. I see you've released v6.9.0 but in the release notes there is no mention of removing that senseless restriction. Are you going to remove it on a following release, or do we need to look for a different password manager since remaining on an older version is not going to be feasible long-term?

[Abhishek Dewan]

Hi @ik8sqi

We appreciate your feedback, and we want you to know that we have duly noted it. However, at this time, we are unable to commit to any specific changes or actions. Your input is invaluable to us, and it maybe considered as we continue to improve our product. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with us.

[AnakinCaesar]

Hello @Abhishek Dewan the sharing and adding methods you mentioned are NOT working for iOS, so sharing an entry is not possible anymore. Huge bummer - something critial which should get way more attention into fixing!

[Abhishek Dewan]

Hi @AnakinCaesar

To assist you better with the issue you are facing, kindly elaborate more on the concern and share the below details with me-

1. The version of the Enpass app and OS you are using.
2. A screenshot of any error occurring would be helpful.

[AnakinCaesar]

iOS 17.0.3 iPhone 14 Pro
Enpass 6.9.3 (776)

Issue: Sharing via Signal creates an unusable file which cant be opened in any way. Sharing via WhatsApp gives all the text but no link to click and no possibility to just select the text what should be able to be added via "Add from clipboard" in Enpass menu. Sharing and then saving to "Files" creates an xxx.enpasscard which I can't open on my own devices, either via import "Add from clipboard" nor opening directly in Enpass. Always give "Invalid file" or "no valid data".

[Abhishek Dewan]

Hi @AnakinCaesar

Thank you for elaborating on the concern.

I'm discussing this case with our dedicated team and will get back to you soon with an update. Your patience and cooperation in the meantime are appreciated.

#SI-3519

[Abhishek Dewan]

Hi @AnakinCaesar

Upon a thorough discussion and investigation, we were able to reproduce the bug. Our development team is now working on fixing it as a priority, and a patch addressing this issue will be released soon. We appreciate your kind patience and cooperation in the interim.

[ik8sqi]

On 9/6/2023 at 6:51 AM, Abhishek Dewan said:

Hi @ik8sqi

We appreciate your feedback, and we want you to know that we have duly noted it. However, at this time, we are unable to commit to any specific changes or actions. Your input is invaluable to us, and it maybe considered as we continue to improve our product. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with us.

I just noticed that when you do an "export", all the data is being exported in clear text. So why would you take away from us the ability to share an item in clear text and force us to encrypt it, making it impossible to share it with others unless they're also using enpass, while at the same time leaving *everything* in clear text when exporting it? It does not make sense.

This came up while I was getting ready to test the Secrets.app password manager. It's looking *very* promising. It can't copy the items to export in the clipboard as Enpass used to do, but it can at least export them in clear text individually. I've waited too long for this senseless restriction to be removed. Guess it's time to part ways with Enpass.