Full-Time Windows Hello in Enpass 6

[tox1c90]

Hi!

I was using Enpass UWP for Windows 10 with full-time Windows Hello enabled, because my computer fulfills all necessary requirements (TPM 2.0, UEFI Secure Boot). So Enpass UWP successfully detected that the machine is secure enough to store the keys in hardware/TPM and use Windows Hello directly on the first launch even after a computer restart or when Enpass UWP was completely closed.

Now with Enpass 6, it is only using the fallback solution of asking for the master password the first time after restart, and using Windows Hello only for subsequent unlocks. I think Enpass 6 is great and a big improvement in many things, but in this particular aspect it feels like kind of a stepback.

So my question is: Will full-time Windows Hello be supported in Enpass 6 again like it was in Enpass UWP for computers which fulfill the necessary requirements for hardware/TPM-based security?

Edited December 4, 2018 by tox1c90

[Stahlreck]

Yes please. This was something I really loved from the UWP app. I hope the Enpass team will once again built this in for devices with TPM. Would be nice to hear something from the Enpass team abut this. Is this feature planned to return for the release?

[Moaske]

Yes! Please bring this back. If Android is safe enough to offer this, then I can't imagine Windows 10 not offering the hooks.

Apart from the convenience: I really don't want people to be able read along when I type my master password. So actually one could argue that not offering Windows Hello on the first start-up , could actually be interpreted as a security flaw/risk...   (imagine standing in a crowded metro trying to log into something).

So please bring full-time Hello back, I had got myself a license for the UWP app just to have this!

And @tox1c90 : it's even worse than just after a fresh boot: if you don't leave Enpass running in the task-tray it'll NEVER offer you Windows Hello login  

Edited December 22, 2018 by Moaske

[Stahlreck]

I'll just bring this up again...

Enpass sadly lost it's ability for full-time Windows Hello support with v6. I would really like you bringing this back asap for devices with TPM since it was very convenient. I hope there is no technical limitation because it's now a bridged Win32 app.

[Damasta]

Hi,

I'm not sure what you mean by "full-time Windows Hello support" … Are you talking about the fact that Enpass needs the master password once after a restart? If yes: I have that on my Surface Book 2 too. That is ultra-annoying. V5 UWP didn't do that. So I need to get my Android Enpass to get the Enpass master password before Windows Hello works again.

That being said, after unlocking Enpass with the master password once, Windows Hello seems to work fine for me.

[Stahlreck]

Yes that's what I mean. Sadly there doesn't seem to be any response by the developers about this and no information about implementing it back...or at least a reason why it's been removed. It's just annoying having to type in the master password once at the start when you could just use Hello from the start if you have a secure TPM chip.

[Carlos Gurridaga]

On 1/11/2019 at 4:17 PM, Stahlreck said:

Yes that's what I mean. Sadly there doesn't seem to be any response by the developers about this and no information about implementing it back...or at least a reason why it's been removed. It's just annoying having to type in the master password once at the start when you could just use Hello from the start if you have a secure TPM chip.

Yep, I bought Pro thinking this version worked like that. It's too disappointing
 

[Mathew]

I also subscribe to this feature request because I upgraded my PC with a TPM only for that reason.

[Tillerbach]

+1

On 12/22/2018 at 2:39 PM, Moaske said:

So please bring full-time Hello back, I had got myself a license for the UWP app just to have this! 

The same is true for me. The main reason for buying the license was unlocking it with Windows Hello. Please adjust the function accordingly.
Thank you very much.

[dan45]

I want it too, today  I buyed premium, because i thought I could unlock it with windows hello without the master password.

[dan45]

what's up here admins? no help/comment?

[Damasta]

WHEN IS THIS FINALLY GOING TO WORK? It used to on V5 - why this regression on V6?

[dan45]

I have buyed an TPM Module too, but it doesnt work. I am waiting too!!!

[krustyklassic]

Keeper password manager does this already. Is this eventually going to be a feature of Enpass?

[Dentonthebear]

Yes the Enpass team is working on it, and it is reference in other threads on the forum.

[dan45]

how long does it take? we are waiting months!

[Dentonthebear]

3 hours ago, dan45 said:

how long does it take? we are waiting months!

I cannot answer that one, but as well as being a girls name and a card game, patience is a virtue.

Programming is not easy especially in the moving goalposts world of IT.

[Guest Vikram Dabas]

Hi All,

I know it can be inconvenient if you need to enter Master Password after every fresh start of the application. We would love to provide the Full-time Windows Hello support, but the integration of Hello in Win32 apps isn't quite the same as in UWP apps. Although we have already found a solution and currently our team is working on it. We will release it in the future updates which inevitably makes the things better. It's going to take some time until then; we appreciate patience and co-operation.

Thanks.

[Tillerbach]

@Vikram Dabas

Thank you very much for the clarifying word about the topic.

The Enpass page at the Microsoft Store reads:

Though you can buy the one-time in-App purchase for following premium features:
- Windows Hello
- Dark Theme

No further footnote or explanation. There will be buyers who have made their purchase decision because of this feature. The actual integration of the function, then probably deviates from the expectation of the buyer. At least that applies to me. This creates, at least for some customers, a certain expectation. A thread that is ignored for more than 5 months and receives no official statement does not help either.
Please try to understand the disappointed customers and keep us up to date.

I am very pleased that there is a solution for the problematic development and I am already looking forward to the function. I will continue to use Enpass with pleasure and recommend it at any time.

[Remy]

I would really like this. This annoys me so much, Enpass is great but this is just to make it perfect

[Dentonthebear]

On 4/8/2019 at 11:19 AM, Damasta said:

WHEN IS THIS FINALLY GOING TO WORK? It used to on V5 - why this regression on V6?

From what I understand v6 is written on a completely different platform, so maybe Windows Hello is proving more difficult to integrate than it was in v5.

[Guest Vikram Dabas]

Hi @Tillerbach

On 4/26/2019 at 9:41 PM, Tillerbach said:

The Enpass page at the Microsoft Store reads:

Though you can buy the one-time in-App purchase for following premium features:
- Windows Hello
- Dark Theme

No further footnote or explanation. There will be buyers who have made their purchase decision because of this feature. The actual integration of the function, then probably deviates from the expectation of the buyer. At least that applies to me. This creates, at least for some customers, a certain expectation. A thread that is ignored for more than 5 months and receives no official statement does not help either.

Thanks for your feedback on the matter.

[Damasta]

On 4/27/2019 at 11:02 PM, Dentonthebear said:

From what I understand v6 is written on a completely different platform, so maybe Windows Hello is proving more difficult to integrate than it was in v5.

Indeed. Which means Enpass chose the wrong platform.

[Dentonthebear]

2 hours ago, Damasta said:

Indeed. Which means Enpass chose the wrong platform.

Do you mean that Enpass should not be sold through the Windows Store?

[Andres]

I just bought the premium version of Enpass for windows and hello support is only after entering the password. 

This is misleading advertising...